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- From: Prashant Uchil prashantu@hotmail.com
- Subject: [Patents] EPO Paper on patenting business methods
- Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 07:38:54 GMT
does any one know how voice files /voice streaming can be done over existing
wap specifications (one solution is to make a com object -use corba- which
will convert voice files in to another format which can be transferred over
wap)can anyone tell me about such things patented etc.
prashant uchil
>From: PILCH Hartmut <phm@a2e.de>
>To: patents@aful.org
>Subject: [Patents] EPO Paper on patenting business methods
>Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 21:56:55 +0200 (CEST)
>
>Greg Aharonian reports
>
> A press-release about "Patentability of methods of doing business"
> of the EPO can be found at
>
> http://www.european-patent-office.org/news/pressrel/2000_08_18_e.htm
>
>and comments very nicely:
>
> If you are not a patent lawyer, don't read the press release, it will
> cause temporary brain meltdown. I quote an excerpt (is [and whatever
> "is" means] President Clinton moonlighting by writing stuff for EPO?):
>
> The EPC does not give a definition of the term "invention".
> It does, however, include a list of subject-matter and activities
> which are deemed not to be inventions. According to Article 52(2) EPC,
> methods for doing business, mathematical methods, presentations of
> information and programs for computers shall not be regarded as
> inventions. However, Article 52(3) EPC stipulates that this provision
> shall exclude patentability of the subject-matter or activities
> referred to only to the extent to which a European patent application
> relates to such subject-matter or activities AS SUCH.
>
> In short, these things aren't patentable except where they are.
>
> It follows that, although methods for doing business, programs for
> computers, etc., are AS SUCH explicitly excluded from patentability,
> a product or a method which is of a technical character may be
> patentable, even if the claimed subject-matter defines or at least
> involves a business method, a computer program, etc.
>
> EPO officials probably wrote this at a retreat in Nicaea.
>
>In fact, the EPO has ever since 1986 been distinguishing between a
>"computer program as such" and a "computer program with a technical
>effect". According to EPC Art 52, however, computer programs are not
>patentable. The EPC implies no distinction between "program as such" and
>"program" or "business method as such" and "business method". Patents may
>simply not be granted on programs or business methods.
>
>If Art 52 is to be modified, (3) should be deleted, because it has only
>served for the EPO to engage in brainmelting activities.
>
>Currently, the German Federal Patent Court also interprets the EPC in this
>way. It does not accept the "computer program as such" sophistry and has
>rejected a software patent this month. But the Federal High Court
>has been melted down last year and now engages in the same kind of
>sophistry. It also has a reputation of overturning the verdicts of the
>Federal Patent Court and promoting patent inflation.
>
>-phm
>
>
>
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