[Patents] voice over wap

[Prashant Uchil prashantu@hotmail.com]

does any one know how voice files /voice streaming can be done over existing
wap specifications (one solution is to make a com object -use corba- which
will convert voice files in to another format which can be transferred over
wap)can anyone tell me about such things patented  etc.

prashant uchil



>From: "Prashant Uchil" <prashantu@hotmail.com>
>To: phm@a2e.de, patents@aful.org
>Subject: Re: [Patents] EPO Paper on patenting business methods
>Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 07:38:54 GMT
>
>does any one know how voice files /voice streaming can be done over 
>existing
>wap specifications (one solution is to make a com object -use corba- which
>will convert voice files in to another format which can be transferred over
>wap)can anyone tell me about such things patented  etc.
>
>prashant uchil
>>From: PILCH Hartmut <phm@a2e.de>
>>To: patents@aful.org
>>Subject: [Patents] EPO Paper on patenting business methods
>>Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 21:56:55 +0200 (CEST)
>>
>>Greg Aharonian reports
>>
>>   A press-release about "Patentability of methods of doing business"
>>   of the EPO can be found at
>>
>>     http://www.european-patent-office.org/news/pressrel/2000_08_18_e.htm
>>
>>and  comments very nicely:
>>
>>  If you are not a patent lawyer, don't read the press release, it will
>>  cause temporary brain meltdown.  I quote an excerpt (is [and whatever
>>  "is" means] President Clinton moonlighting by writing stuff for EPO?):
>>
>>     The EPC does not give a definition of the term "invention".
>>     It does, however, include a list of subject-matter and activities
>>     which are deemed not to be inventions. According to Article 52(2) 
>>EPC,
>>     methods for doing business, mathematical methods, presentations of
>>     information and programs for computers shall not be regarded as
>>     inventions.  However, Article 52(3) EPC stipulates that this 
>>provision
>>     shall exclude patentability of the subject-matter or activities
>>     referred to only to the extent to which a European patent application
>>     relates to such subject-matter or activities AS SUCH.
>>
>>  In short, these things aren't patentable except where they are.
>>
>>     It follows that, although methods for doing business, programs for
>>     computers, etc., are AS SUCH explicitly excluded from patentability,
>>     a product or a method which is of a technical character may be
>>     patentable, even if the claimed subject-matter defines or at least
>>     involves a business method, a computer program, etc.
>>
>>  EPO officials probably wrote this at a retreat in Nicaea.
>>
>>In fact, the EPO has ever since 1986 been distinguishing between a
>>"computer program as such" and a "computer program with a technical
>>effect".  According to EPC Art 52, however, computer programs are not
>>patentable.  The EPC implies no distinction between "program as such" and
>>"program" or "business method as such" and "business method".  Patents may
>>simply not be granted on programs or business methods.
>>
>>If Art 52 is to be modified, (3) should be deleted, because it has only
>>served for the EPO to engage in brainmelting activities.
>>
>>Currently, the German Federal Patent Court also interprets the EPC in this
>>way.  It does not accept the "computer program as such" sophistry and has
>>rejected a software patent this month.  But the Federal High Court
>>has been melted down last year and now engages in the same kind of
>>sophistry.  It also has a reputation of overturning the verdicts of the
>>Federal Patent Court and promoting patent inflation.
>>
>>-phm
>>
>>
>>
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