From critto@poczta.wp.pl  Sun Apr  1 19:57:02 2001
From: critto@poczta.wp.pl (Krzysztof Sobolewski)
Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 20:57:02 +0200
Subject: Laugh, Greg, Laugh ... please yourself :-))) Re:  [Patents] reply by evasion
In-Reply-To: <200104011744.NAA24264@world.std.com>
Message-ID: <20010401185051.5B3BEFB3B@stabilite.aful.org>

From:           	Gregory Aharonian <srctran@world.std.com>
To:             	<patents@aful.org>, PILCH Hartmut <phm@a2e.de>
Subject:        	Re:  [Patents] reply by evasion
Date sent:      	Sun, 1 Apr 2001 13:44:00 -0400 (EDT)

> > blah blah blah ....  Any anyone who tries to define a borderline based
> > on subject matter / technical character is doing something "ill
> > defined".
> 
> Sorry Hartmut, but when the EPO Board of Appeals and the German BGH
> Court use "technical effect" as a criteria to reject a patent, while
> admitting that they don't have a well-defined definition of
> "technical effect", that is bad jurisprudence.  Such decisions ar
> inherently illogical and will ultimately be overturned with a well
> reasoned argument which does formally define "technical effect" and
> prove that both software and business methods satisfy such a formal
> definition.  I am appalled by the intellectual laziness I see coming
> out of Europe on both sides of these issues, in not trying to better
> define and understand these terms, and use them properly and logically.
> 
> What's even funnier is that some of the best work in the field of
> business methods as technical processes is being done by German
> computer scientists and mathematicians.  I

[cuuut]

> And to shut up your hysterics and hissy fits, this fall I am giving
> a lecture at a European IP conference 

[cuuut]
> 
> So everyone, three cheers for Hartmut - whose nobility and self-sacrifice
> makes him the beacon of integrity in the patent world.  

Laugh, Greg, laugh ... ;->> Really funny, isn't it ??? ;->> Slavery 
may be much fun, but only if YOU are a master (massuh). ;->>> 
Massuh Greg, please stop laughing. ;-)) ;->>>>

You only show the EMPTINESS the world of the lawyers. All you 
show us, is that you (and your pro-slavery, that is pro-sw-pats, 
comrades) are LOSING POWER. YOUR ARE RUNNING OUT OF 
FORCE (force is not with you :-)) If not the European Parliament, 
the parliaments of the European Countries will pull out the plug of 
the patent madness. America will be alone with sw-pats, as it was 
once with slavery (eh, it existed even longer in Brasil and so on).

In short: more violently you fight, less power you indicate to have. It 
is good news for me -- your potential slave, who don't want to let 
you enslave him. It is FATAL news for you, for one day you will be 
unemployed -- and thanks God you will be, for your profession 
depends on enslaving other people.

And about your "ethics of patenting". Pro-slavery people (I really 
studied the American history!) argued that "slaves are the HONEST 
PROPERTY of the slaveowner", and that "nobody may take 
somebody's property away". Surely! But NO MAN or WOMAN may 
be other man's/woman's property, and it applies to all the fields of 
human activity. Your "ethics" reminds the latter exactly: 
1. slaveowners' ethics: if the property is unalienable, slavery must 
be too, because the slaves are our property, and we don't care 
what they think
2. your (and other pro-sw-pat folks) ethics: if the patents 
(intellectual property) are unalienable, software patents must be 
too, because the software ideas are our property, and we don't care 
what think the people that we FORCED to give up their Pursuit of 
Happiness, Liberty and Property

You may laugh, but one day everybody wil be laughing at you. In 
fact, WE (Pilch, Bernard, I and others) are more powerful than the 
stinking pro-software-patent lobbyists from United Shackles of 
America.

   Yours in Liberty and Opposition to  Patent Slavery,
        Critto




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