Slavery and TRIPS (it was: Re: [Patents] WHAT WE LOST DUE TO GREG)

[critto@poczta.wp.pl (Krzysztof Sobolewski)]

Date sent:              Sun, 1 Apr 2001 20:37:39 -0400 (EDT)
From:                   Gregory Aharonian <srctran@world.std.com>
To:                     Krzysztof Sobolewski <critto@poczta.wp.pl>, 
PILCH Hartmut <phm@a2e.de>
Subject:                Re: [Patents] WHAT WE LOST DUE TO GREG
Copies to:              <patents@liberte.aful.org>

> Hartmut reiterates endlessly a question I have answered repeatedly:
> > Should everything under the sun that is novel and "non-obvious"
> > be patentable?
> 
> Who knows?  But when it comes to software, the answer is yes, under the
> current laws of both the United States and Europe.  Whatever complaints
> you have about software patents (I find the slavery complaint totally
> hilarious and totally insulting [to those who were slaves]), 

Insulting, eh ? Is it the manner that a majority of Americans behave 
now -- to evade the inconvenient, uncomfortable questions and 
issues by regarding them as 'insulting', 'hilarious', 'offencive', etc 
??? I think it came with "political correctness" (political crapness) 
that infected the whole USA and is coming now to Europe, as the 
next disease on that continent (BSE, pig disease, PC, sw-pats ... 
that's  too much) 

But, not for me. I'm a libertarian, I *ignore* political correctness and 
I will ask what I want to, to get the answers. Please read one of my 
latest e-mails, I've explained there what I mean by the term of 
'slavery', and that there are 4 types of slavery. And the last: using 
the term 'slavery' was inconvenient to slaveowners, too -- this is 
why American Consitution says of 'persons'  and 'all others' who 
are treated like 3/5 of a human being (the latter contrasted with 
'citizens' and 'Indians'). Only in the CSA constitution slavery was 
explicitly defined -- maybe because the Southern people were more 
open and straightforward ...

[cuuut]

> And if not, I will bet any amount of money that in a TRIPS challenge
> made by the US against any European laws discriminating against
> software patents, that the US position would prevail - for one
> simple reason - there doesn't not exist any language that one can
> clearly and unambiguously discriminate software as a technology from
> any other technology.

Dear Greg, * PLEASE STOP* scarying us with "TRIPS". What is 
that the hell ?? After all, WTO stands for *free trade* and the sw-
patents are the *mercantilist*, the *protectionist*, the *anti-market* 
and *anti-free trade* CRAP. It flies in the way of the ideas that are 
the WTO's foundation. 

First, sw-pats DO NOT come explicitly from TRIPS. Second, even 
if they do, there would NOT be the case as with American beef that 
European officials didn't want to let to entry to the market.
NO. That case was the 'free trade' question. Case (issue) with the 
sw-pats is the ANTI-free trade question: should we allow the free 
trade and free creation of programs to be stopped to satisfy the 
United Shackles' of America anti-market demands ?? NO.

And we (all the anti-patent slavery folks) MUST show the world, 
must show the WTO, the EU officials and the public, that sw-pats 
are *NOT* something that WTO should stand for. We must show, 
that sw-pats were (if they really were) introduced into TRIPS 
*BY MISTAKE*, resulting from the lack of (the lawmakers') 
knowledge.

Sw-pats could be rather compared to the latest OECD's 
(Organization of Enslavement and Ceasing Development) 
crackdown on the 'tax havens', with the imperialistic demands to 
*introduce the internal income taxes* where there are none -- in 
spite of the fact, that those countries *are not* the members of 
OECD, nor they are willing to be the ones, and that they are the 
sovereign states. OECD will lose, of course. It is losing even now 
and we, libertarians, "help" it to fail completely.

Anyway, if we had to make a choice (for the European future)  -- it 
would be 1000 times better for Europe to withdraw her membership 
in WTO, than to introduce the *sw-patent slavery* on her beautiful 
soil.

   Critto

PS. If the law would ignore us (programmers), we would start to 
ignore the law. In the era of internet, it isn't the very hard task to 
do. Just to encrypt everything ... And voila !! We'll be beyond the 
reach of the patents and taxes, too.


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