[patents] Re: World Intellectual Property Day is April 26, 20 01

[Arnold.Verbeek@econ.kuleuven.ac.be (Verbeek, Arnold)]

I agree completely. I think that you are overshooting the purpose of =
this
mailing list. Why don't you continue your disputes on a private basis? =
For
the last days my inbox is getting overloaded by the private opinions =
and
frustrations of certain contributors. Not all, clearly. Please continue =
this
rather onprofessional discussion elsewere.

Thank you,

A. Verbeek

-----Original Message-----
From: Krueger, Jason C.
To: Roland Orre; Jorge Zickermann
Cc: webmaster@softwarelaw.com; patents@liberte.aful.org;
epo@mlist.austria.eu.net
Sent: 30/04/01 18:00
Subject: Re: [patents] Re: World Intellectual Property Day is April 26, =
2001

What a joke, you all call this professionalism?  I am a university
student,
and am on this list in order to gain insight in regards to current
patent
issues.  However, this is not what I expected.  In fact, this is a =
waste
of
my time.
In all, some of you, NOT all of you, in my opinion, are representing
your
field unprofessionally.

Sincerely,

Jason C. Krueger

----- Original Message -----
From: "Roland Orre" <orre@nada.kth.se>
To: "Jorge Zickermann" <jzickermann@mail.EUnet.pt>
Cc: "webmaster@softwarelaw.com" <softwarelaw@lawyer.com>;
<patents@liberte.aful.org>; <epo@mlist.austria.eu.net>
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 6:55 AM
Subject: Re: [patents] Re: World Intellectual Property Day is April 26,
2001


(sorry if some of you got two copies of my reply. Due to a technicality
 I had to resend it and I wanted to preserve the CC-structure)

On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, Jorge Zickermann wrote:
> Shouldn=B4t these debates be moderated by an administrator in order =
to
keep
> the standard of the newsgroup? I=B4ve seen that done before and it =
makes
the
> Internet a better place. A bit like police on the streets.

Roland Orre answers:

That what you Mr Zickermann are suggesting is a very dangerous idea,
even though it  may sound harmless at first sight.
What guarantee is there that the moderator works for the public good
and is not biased in any way?

In this case it would have had the effect that Mr Smith's very
provocative statement had never become published, and my strong
reaction towards this, thus had then never occured.

But, imagine the danger if Mr Smith's message had slipped through the
moderator but my response to his message had been judged as
too emotional. That would have been very serious. Consider the
consequences.

So Mr Zickerman, the only thing which is comparable to polices on
the streets considering internet is that people are reading these
messages. That's the only democratic way.

Remember that the police is being watched by the people too. We
don't want dictatorship, do we?

It should be in each person's interest to express himself or herself
in a way which is as good as possible considering all the people
watching.

You can NEVER put this responsibility on one single person. Even
though this person being the moderator has the best intentions,
being the best possible altruist you can find, he or she may have
some sligth bias in opinion, which may affect what is getting
through or not.

Roland Orre
Professional software developer
Fighting for a free world without dangerous
software patents.

> > From: PILCH Hartmut <phm@a2e.de>
> > Reply-To: PILCH Hartmut <phm@a2e.de>
> > Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 20:39:55 +0200 (CEST)
> > To: "webmaster@softwarelaw.com" <softwarelaw@lawyer.com>
> > Cc: <patents@liberte.aful.org>, <epo@mlist.austria.eu.net>
> > Subject: Re: Re: [Patents] Re: World Intellectual Property Day is
April
26,
> > 2001
> >
> > Fred Mobach wrote:
> >
> >> Long time ago I saw such childish behavior on the net. Or maybe an
> >> adolescent who wrote this.
> >
> > Unfortunately Mr. Smith is not an adolescent but a well-known =
writer
of
> > pro software patent articles on renowned patent law magazines.
> >
> > Mr. Smith, I hope to see you putting back his website online =
without
much
> > delay and declaring in public that you are not in physical danger
and
that
> > you are sorry for having acted in a way suitable to create that
> > impression.
> >
> > Otherwise I may report the case to a criminal prosecutor.
> >
> > Libel itself is the first stage in a development toward nasty
warfare
> > which we don't want to see getting started.  I also beg all patent
> > professionals on this list to take appropriate steps to make it
clear
> > that, no matter how strongly you may support Mr. Smith's opinion on
> > software patents, you do not approve of his libel tactics or what
might
> > look like such tactics. By making that clear, you can counteract =
the
> > necessity of getting criminal authorities involved in a discourse
that
> > should be purely aimed at enhancing mutual understanding.
> >
> > Thank you
> >
> > Hartmut Pilch
> > Federation for a Free Information Infrastructure
> >
> >
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