Sw pats and nazi propaganda ('twas: Re: [Patents] free sw removed from german website ...)

[critto@poczta.wp.pl (Krzysztof Sobolewski)]

From:                   PILCH Hartmut <phm@a2e.de>
To:                     Gregory Aharonian <srctran@world.std.com>
Copies to:              <patents@aful.org>
Subject:                Re:  [Patents] free sw removed from german website 
due to US   
        swpat threats
Date sent:              Sun, 10 Jun 2001 10:01:43 +0200 (CEST)

> > Then Dersch is an idiot getting bad advice who isn't being terrorized.
> > Unless there are German patents involved, IPIX's US patents don't
> > require him to do anything.  Additionally, this is free image processing
> > software packages all over the Internet (including some from US
> > government agency laboratories).
> >
> > All he has to do is fax a letter to IPIX saying "US PATENTS HAVE NO
> > ENFORCEMENT VALUE IN GERMANY.  GOODBYE."
> 
> I would suspect that too.
> 
> On the other hand side, the German Federal Court seems to think
> differently, since it has handed penal verdicts to forein citizens
> (e.g. an Australian) for information crimes (publishing nazi
> propaganda on a website in Australia).

Well, Hartmut,
though I don't know what happened to that man which published 
it(has he been extradited ? Or not?), publishing of nazi propaganda 
is one of the cases when it is justified for the courts to 'exceed' 
their jurisdictions. The more the (neo)nazi fear of justice, the better 
it is. I hold the position that there shout NOT be any freedom for 
nazis; oh, let them gas themselves. Or let them shoot themselves 
in their heads. Yes, they are free to do it. But not to call to gas or 
shoot others, only for being Poles, Jews, Gypsies, Russians or so.
I *HATE* nazis. And I hope you hate them, too.

> Thus things have become very uncalculable for an ordinary citizen.

Not for me, Hartmut (though I'm not a citizen of Germany). This one 
"extraordinary" case doesn't bind a court in any way. Patent law is 
something different that goin' after the *real* hate-propaganda 
(contrary to some imagined hate-propaganda, eg. being "politically 
incorrect", which doesn't have anything to do with hate).

I'm almost sure that this man may tell iPIX to leave him alone. 
Anyway, is there any Personal Data Protection Act in Germany? If 
so, he can even accuse them of the illegal getting of his personal 
info.

> And I think Dersch is getting some legal advice.  

I hope so, too.

> He has been harassed by
> iPIX for several years, all on the basis of US patents. 

We *MUST* tell the US invaders: get out of Europe. Get out with 
your stupid 'laws', with your software patents, with your culture of 
death, your "political correctness", your racial problems, your 
crime promotion on TV, movies etc. (I mean the violent movies, and 
so on). We may accept some of your things, but only those which 
are beneficial and good for Europeans. And thus, we should adopt 
free market (it's greater in USA than in Europe anyway; consider 
the 'milk quotas' and other 'limits' regulations' of production in 
Europe; there are none such in USA), free speech (1st 
Amendment), gun rights (2nd Amendment), personal privacy (4th 
Amendment AFAIR). 

Well, some of those things we must combat may be combatted by 
European authorities (sw patents), and others -- not. As far as I 
hate the violent movies and PCness, I hate the government 
infringment into freedom of speech much more (nazi propaganda is 
one of the exclusions of this rule). 

> If they get an
> injunction that will make it risky for him to travel to the US, that might
> be enough. 

Surely it will be enough. If I've got such an 'order' I would try to 
make it public and, in some way, to become the personally 
famous: well, Critto is the man banned from gettin' into US. For 
what ? For defending FREEDOM of programming -- this could 
unmask the real face of today's USA: NO land of freedom or home 
of the brave. A country ruled by the federal gangs (sorry, agencies) 
and the greedy corporations, which have an anti-market, 
mercantilist mindset (not all of them, of course).

   Yours in Liberty,
        Against Sw Patent Slavery,
             Critto

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