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- From: Laurent Guerby <guerby@acm.org>
- To: patents@aful.org
- Subject: Knuth's stake on patents
- Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 09:25:16 +0100
Page seven of <http://www.ams.org/notices/200203/fea-knuth.pdf>, last
question.
Mirrors from slashdot: <http://russnelson.com/fea-knuth.pdf> and
<http://www.cse.buffalo.edu/~ajay/fea-knuth.pdf>.
From pdftotext with slight (mis)reformating:
<<
Question: What is your thinking about
software patents? There is a big discus-
sion going on in Europe right now about
whether software should be patentable.
Knuth: I'm against patents on things
that any student should be expected to
discover. There have been an awful lot
of software patents in the U.S. for ideas
that are completely trivial, and that
bothers me a lot. There is an organiza-
tion that has worked for many years to
make patents on all the remaining triv-
ial ideas and then make these available
to everyone. The way patenting had
been going was threatening to make
the software industry stand still.
Algorithms are inherently mathe-
matical things that should be as un-
patentable as the value of . But for
something nontrivial, something like
the interior point method for linear pro-
gramming, there's more justification
for somebody getting a right to license
the method for a short time, instead of
keeping it a trade secret. That's the
whole idea of patents; the word patent
means "to make public".
I was trained in the culture of mathematics, so
I'm not used to charging people a penny every time
they use a theorem I proved. But I charge somebody
for the time I spend telling them which theorem
to apply. It's okay to charge for services and
customization and improvement, but don't make
the algorithms themselves proprietary.
There's an interesting issue, though. Could you
possibly have a patent on a positive integer? It is
not inconceivable that if we took a million of the
greatest supercomputers today and set them going,
they could compute a certain 300-digit constant
that would solve any NP-hard problem by taking
the GCD of this constant with an input number, or
by some other funny combination. This integer
would require massive amounts of computation
time to find, and if you knew that integer, then you
could do all kinds of useful things. Now, is that
integer really discovered by man? Or is it something
that is God given? When we start thinking of com-
plexity issues, we have to change our viewpoint as
to what is in nature and what is invented.
>>
--
Laurent Guerby <guerby@acm.org>
- Knuth's stake on patents, Laurent Guerby
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