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- From: Seth Johnson <seth.johnson@RealMeasures.dyndns.org>
- To: Bernard Lang <Bernard.Lang@inria.fr>
- Cc: patents@aful.org, C-FIT_Community@RealMeasures.dyndns.org, C-FIT_Release_Community@RealMeasures.dyndns.org, www-patentpolicy-comment@w3.org, fairuse-discuss@mrbrklyn.com, usenet@consulting.net.nz, rms@gnu.org
- Subject: Re: Pseudo-Patent-Free Microsoft Standard
- Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2002 12:34:48 -0400
- Organization: Real Measures
Can anybody translate this? Bernard is documenting MS
intent to attack free software by means of patents.
Seth
Bernard Lang wrote:
>
> On Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 10:02:57AM +0200, PILCH Hartmut wrote:
> > > (Microsoft just can't cope with the idea that standards
> > > are supposed to be used by everyone. So they are hooking
> > > up their patents via their license. We simply can't turn
> > > our back on them for one second. -- Seth Johnson)
> > >
> > > http://www.advogato.org/article/453.html
> >
> > Unfortunately we still do not know about the EPO situation
> > concerning these Microsoft applications. As usual, the US
> > patent doesn't contain information on a parallel EP or WO
> > patent application. Yet these could very well exist. In
> > 1993 the EPO was already granting patents on the most
> > abstract mathematical methods, and of course the above
> > claim language looked "technical" enough for the EPO to
> > consider it not pertaining to a programming solution as
> > such -- indeed it is more a problem than a solution that
> > is claimed. Also, an application from 1993 would most
> > likely have been granted around 1998 by the EPO.
> >
> > For research into this, you may want to use
> >
> > http://www.depatisnet.de/
> > http://www.espacenet.com/
> > http://www.delphion.com/
> >
> > Using a few key words from the two US applications (such
> > as Microsoft, "inventor"'s name, text strings from the
> > claims etc) should get you there.
>
> I do not know whether that is essential, though proper
> information never hurts.
>
> The data below seems more important to me, because it
> shows a systematic attack based on interoperability, using
> existing hold on the market to extend to new areas. Very
> precisely what anti-trust regulation forbids.
>
> Can someone translate precisely the excerpt from Heise
>
> Auf die Ãffnung des .NET-Framework
> angesprochen, kündigte Ballmer an, dass es
> sicherlich eine
> Common-Language-Runtime-Implementation für
> Unix geben werde, schränkte diese Entwicklung
> jedoch als Subset ein, der "nur für den
> akademischen Einsatz gedacht sei". Ãberlegungen
> zur Unterstützung freier .NET-Implementationen
> wie Mono erteilte Ballmer eine Absage
>
> "Wir haben so viele Millionen in .NET gesteckt,
> wir haben so viele Patente auf .NET, die wir
> pflegen wollen."
>
> Reference:
> Steve Ballmer: Kein Tänzchen an der Leine
> Detlef Borchers, Heise online, 12.03.2002
> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/jk-12.03.02-000/
>
> http://www.heise.de/bin/nt.print/newsticker/data/jk-12.03.02-000/?id=bb59a8c6&todo=print
>
> Bernard
>
> PS Are there other speeches by Ballmer or others
> with similar statements ? especially use of patents
> to kill open source.
>
> > As MS is using these swpats for its crusades against
> > the GPL, We need to document this stuff quickly and
> > thouroughly, see also
> >
> > http://swpat.ffii.org/news/index.en.html#m023E
> >
> > and some help would be very much appreciated.
>
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