OT:EUCD

[Xavi Drudis Ferran <xdrudis@tinet.org>]

El Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 08:28:46PM +0200, critto@wp.pl deia:
> What about this EUCD? Are there any movements to abolish this directive 
> (it is  possible; one directive may replace another; even Maastricht 
> Treaty has been  replaced by the Nice Treaty), or to amend it? And, a 

I'm not well informed. I think http://www.eucd.info or http://www.eucd.org ;
can provide some info. 

> question to Hartmut: what  about Germany and Austria? Have they 
> _ratified_ EUCD? Or only are going to?  I can't find anything anywhere. 
> Even on Slashdot. Ah, here is some info, but it  isn't clear when it 
> has been updated: 
> 

Member states do not ratify directives, they simply implement them. They 
have no option not to implement them, unless they find them contrary 
to very high laws and get them nullified by European Courts, I think.
I think this has only happened once in history. For all I know 
member states can only try to implement EUCD in a less harmful way. 

>  Yes.  I hope that things will be different in the case of swpats. 
> After all, there was  little or no opposition towards EuroDMCA. As Th. 
> Jefferson said, "the price of  liberty is eternal vigilance". I hope 
> that MEPs will be wise and reject the sw pat  proposals.  
> 

Yes. It is not only legislators that have stoped doing their job.  The
citizens have also stopped to care about politics, and therefore
politicians do not feel the pressure to do their job. In Catalonia
this seems to be just beginning to change again, with the massive
opposition to war, people who didn't care to vote or think about
politics are beginning to go to demostrations and think. We'll see if
it lasts.

> And, one more thing -- let's stop losing time on speaking with Greg 
> Aharonian.  As for me, it's not a point to convince him. Better 
> concentrate on convincing the  EUParl.  
>

Usually replies to Greg are not meant to convince him (since the debates
with him have been going on for years now), but to offer alternative views
for any new audience to the list. 

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Xavi Drudis Ferran
xdrudis@tinet.org