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- From: Hartmut Pilch <phm@a2e.de>
- To: Bernhard Kaindl <bernhard.kaindl@gmx.de>
- Cc: Christian Beauprez <beauprez@beauprez.fsnet.co.uk>, patents@aful.org
- Subject: Re: [Patents] Software patents: the case against
- Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 01:53:49 +0100 (CET)
> > An instruction manual : I like the idea of this but I am not sure if
> > people
> > could equate this with a process based example. I was also not sure
> > because
> > the instruction manual could relate to a legitimately patented technology.
>
> There is an analogy with a cooking recipe (also a instruction manual
> if you like).
No, new cooking processes are patentable.
The packaged food industry of course has lots of patents.
This doesn't mean you can get an information claim on the recipe.
The only restriction is that the novel part should not be of esthetic
nature.
I.e. if you look at the formulate for defining "technical invention"
planned action using controllable forces of nature to achieve a causally
overseeable success
then you can see that you have everything in cooking recipies, except for
causal overseeability in the success on the human palate, i.e. there is
subjective judgment on which this success depends, rather than a new
causal relation.
The cooking recipe example, like the symphony example, does not help much.
It merely confirms the prejudice of many people that everything
functional, such as most sofware, should be patentable, whereas esthetical
things, including esthetical software, should not be patentable.
> I think it will not be very hard for an experienced cook to modify some
> cooking recipes in a way where the end result is that it needs less boiler
> plates, pots or time, or make the cooking result "lighter" or "bigger" or
> "softer" or "more creamy", so... Wouln't it be a technical effect then?
>
> So why not patenting new ways of cooking? Actually the USPTO has such:
>
> US 5,939,113 ; Issued in 1999 ; Free-standing lasagna product:
> http://www.ipwatchdog.com/obscurepatents/obspat_2_28_03.html
Inded McCarthy and here entourage will claim that they are saving Europe
from this by their directives. Francisco Mingorance claimed this week at
a conference in Paris that they are desperately trying to limit
patentability but the opensource movement has spoiled the game by creating
obstacles in the European Parliament, which is why the EPO is continuing
to grant bad patents. It was a real lesson in lobbyism which I received
there directly from a master.
--
Hartmut Pilch, FFII & Eurolinux Alliance tel. +49-89-18979927
Protecting Innovation against Patent Inflation http://swpat.ffii.org/
300,000 votes 2000 firms against software patents http://noepatents.org/
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