Re: [Patents] nice Greg newspeak lapse

[Bernard Lang <Bernard.Lang@inria.fr>]

On Thu, May 20, 2004 at 02:11:50PM -0400, Gregory Aharonian wrote:
> Hartmut writes (apparently based on an inability to read American English):
> 
> >And you won't find Greg claiming that patents are doing any good in the
> >software field.  That's not one of his fallacies.
> 
> No, that is one of your fallacies.  I have repeatedly stated that software
> is just another technology to be handled by the patent system, and that
> the positive and negative effects of software patents are little different
> (when you actually measure such economic statistics) to the positive and
> negative effects of patents in other fields of technology.

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you talk too much, let's see some action.


> US, EU, and WIPO copyright statutes.  And unlike patents, copyrights
> last an insane life of the author plus 75 years

why do you care ... you say it does not protect.

> offers any protection to software (which is extremely little in the US,
> and eventually European caselaw will catch up), why should the world
> allow that software to be protected 100+ years?

oh but you say it does

What about spending some time with yourself to resolve this issue ?

> But you all know this.  You know copyright offers little to no protection
> for software, so by fighting software patents, you work towards your real
> goal - no legal protection of any form for software.

oh , but you say no again ... make up your mind.

As far as we are concerned, copyright offers a ot of protection.
Indeed, copylefted software, i.e. software that remains free could not
exist without it.

And indeed, the richest corporation in the worls is spending pots of
money and considerable energy to fight the GPL and other copyleft
licences.  So one must assume they see something there that gets in
their way.

>  A contentious goal
> to be sure, a fun one to watch you all try to achieve.  But at least be
> honest and admit your true proletariat intentions to eliminate all forms
> of legal protection for software.

not only that, but we want to restore freedom to the world by
destroying america and its minions ... and then we will establish true
democracy by copyrighting the constitution so that it can no longer be
modified.  Patenting will be punished by death, and talking about it
by 5 years in your cell, without earplugs.

> Me, I want to make lots of money.  If I can ever come up with a good
> software idea, you can bet your bottles of Guinness I am going to apply
> for a software patent.

so what ... you keep discussing microeconomics, which is a convenient
way to ignore a sizeable part of the problem.

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