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- From: "Christian Beauprez" <beauprez@beauprez.fsnet.co.uk>
- To: "Holger Blasum" <holgerlists@blasum.net>
- Cc: "Patent Forum" <patents@aful.org>
- Subject: Re: [Patents] Patenting computer-using inventions under the EU Software Patent Directive
- Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 18:35:22 -0000
Dear Holger,
Siemens, Philips and others in the 20% non-SME segment of the
European software industry repeatedly have voiced there concerns
about the directive (in its Parliament version) excluding too much
of their current portfolio. Examples I have heard repeatedly were
claims on computer tomography, anti-blocking systems, GSM, and so on (and
naively seen in an ideal world making complex hardware-heavy systems
is the market that big industry should be good at).
It seems to me if they want to patent an improved anti-blocking system that
applies no physical effects and the innovation lay solely in data processing
that would indeed be unpatentable by the Parliament's directive. But then
the question that has to be asked and which the patent offices are no longer
asking is "does this claim relate to a computer program " . I like to take
the traditional view on this that if the invention lies only in instructions
given to a data processing system, with no significant post solution
activity, the claim must fail .
To quote Justice Laddie,
"Mr Birss is right that a computer set up according to the teaching in the
patent application provides a new "tool" for modelling crystal structure
combinations which avoids labour and error. But those are just the sort of
advantages that are obtained by the use of a computer program."
I think the problem happened when we had the terminology "as a whole"
introduced in swpat law. After this point the substance of the claim was
ignored and the question just became "is it new, non obvious and useful?"
(the victory of "technical" over "statutory subject matter" or "invention".)
People have to be reminded that even if something is all of those things
(new, non obvious ,and useful) it still doesn't make it an "invention" in
the sense of patent law.
Now, most of these systems are heavily hardware-dependent and
I have been asked whether we have a list of showcase patents (preferably
of inventions involving a computer somewhere, thus being CII/SEI)
that are *not* affected by the exclusions of data processing, the
requirement of forces of nature etc in the Parliament's version.
I know one : ABS comes to mind.
A non-academic outcome of this exercise would be: see, the claims
xx,xx,xx of invention yy,yy,yy are not necessarily excluded by
the Parliament directive, what do you clamor about? (ignoring of
course the question of novelty and inventive step which could be
taken for granted to simplify the discussion).
I agree the question is what is statutory, not whether it is novel or
unobvious.
If sb already has such a list for "separating mechanics from
data processing" for defensive purposes, that would be a good starting
point,
if not, who would like to (join) compiling it (below is a starting
point by J Bosson)? (The case might be made that's it's too late
for theoretical exercises at the moment of course.)
You know, I actually think that despite minor philosophical tustles within
the movement against software patents there are core things that everyone
can agree on:
The parliament directive is a document that clarifies the law and obtains a
good balance overall.
The commission document is nothing more than an enabling act to introduce
unfettered software patentability.
We want people to understand this and vote accordingly in the interest of
clarity, harmony and the status quo of Article 52 EPC (not the patent office
dogma), and to insure that the internet and software remain a "free press"
for business and the public.
I think there is also an argument that instead of "why don't we apply
patent law to x if it does the same as y" it should be "which system in this
type of x innovation will work better". This is the debate that they can't
win.
Sincerely,
Christian
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